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strider
Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:39:08 AM
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I just started posting some of my runs on MotionBased. Here is the link to the Marathon.
Have fun at Jay.

http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/6167578
rolyone
Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:33:24 AM
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Strider,

I just saw the data on the race. Seriously was there almost 12,000 ft of elevation gain at Val-morin. That's more than twice the gain at Jay. I have run in the area and never really thought there was that much elevation in the area.
strider
Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:50:16 AM
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I thought Jay was 9,000ft - just for the first climb :)

Yup - 12,000 - we went up and down a lot, most of it was either/or - it adds up I guess. There was at least one other post with the same, if not more total elevation.
rolyone
Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:01:03 AM
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I guess Crazy Frenchy built a few more mountains for his race :)

Jay the Top elevation: 3858 ft (1,176 m) Overall the race has I beleive about 5400 ft of vertical climb max but very technical.I do remember swearing alot.

strider
Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:30:22 AM
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I had read another post about Jay have 13,000 ft, but Dan (aka Crazy Frenchy :) ) did correct and say it was about 5500ft. Won't make it this year, hopefully next.

Val Morin didn't feel like 12,000, but maybe because it was spread across entire race. Seriously there were no sections, except for the bogs, that were flat.
Dan Desrosiers
Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:00:06 AM
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Jay has about 5500 feet of Climbing and Quebec had 4800. The 4800 feet of climbing comes from looking at a topo map and adding the lines. it should be pretty close to this anyways

Most GPS are very accurate to measure distance but their elevation gain is totally off since most unit measure the elavation gain with a build in barometer. If the barometric pressure move during the day which always does on a span of 7 to 8 hours the elevation gain mesure is completely off.

if any other runners were using measure unit like a POLAR I am curious to see what was the elevation gain on the course in Quebec

Thanks in advance

Dan


rolyone
Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:31:48 AM
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Thanks for the clarification Dan. At 12,000 ft I would have to come up with another excuse not to run it next year HA.
strider
Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:40:06 AM
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Dan Desrosiers wrote:
Most GPS are very accurate to measure distance but their elevation gain is totally off since most unit measure the elavation gain with a build in barometer. If the barometric pressure move during the day which always does on a span of 7 to 8 hours the elevation gain mesure is completely off.


Interesting info - thanks. I'll have to research this one a little more. I was always suspect on my Garmin's elevation profiles.
strider
Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:11:57 PM
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okay - I have to get some work done today - but....

Motion Based has a cool import feature call MB Gravity Elevation Correction that fixes (as best it can) the GPS errors.

So I exported and re-imported the route into Motion Based. Here is the new link, with better elevation profile.

http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/6196037
Rganey
Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:28:49 PM
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My wife's garmin only tracked 19 miles of the course. After downloading it to motionbased it calculated about 4800 feet of climbing. So, 5200 hundred feet does seem to be acurate to me. All in all, the amount of climbing was made more difficult from all of the high stepping in the mud and water. You could not shuffle through that stuff. I do not think I have ever seen moss that floats. One step your fine the next you are up to your thigh. Very fun coarse.

Robert Ganey
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